Beth Sarim

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  How Stef Woke Up!

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  four of her relatives committed suicide because of the cult.. https://youtu.be/a63ry8ol7wc?si=-n4amwe0iguutk0f.

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  Beth Sarim

  Despicable.
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  How Stef Woke Up!

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  four of her relatives committed suicide because of the cult.. https://youtu.be/a63ry8ol7wc?si=-n4amwe0iguutk0f.

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  Beth Sarim

  She woke up at 49.

  At least she did.

  There are accounts of people in their 80's who are just "waking-up". And realizing that they wasted their lives living a "lie".
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  The Next Big Thing In WT World

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  things got a bit lively after the agm leaks in october.

  there was a lot of discussion going on on this board for a few months.

  now that all the leaks have been more or less confirmed as policy, and we've had lively discussions at length concerning the changes, things seem to have slowed down here.. a few suggestions have been raised as to what might be the next changes, such as women being allowed to wear slacks (in the usa, anyway), decoupling from 1914 as an anchoring date and others.. so, what changes do you think will be announced this year?.

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  Jeffro;

  I quit bothering talking to people who dont use reasoning to understand logic.
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  The Reasoning Book

  by Magnum in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the book reasoning from the scriptures was released in the 1980's, and it was used at virtually every meeting for service, every service meeting, and every theocratic ministry school meeting thereafter.

  many jws had copies bound together with their bibles.

  it was huge in jw land back then.. at that time, with the reasoning book, jws were trained to keep conversations going in spite of objections, to almost stick their feet in people's doors to keep conversations going, to defend "the truth," to argue doctrine, etc.. compare the situation today with that of the 80's.

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  I remember being in FS around the summer just before 9/11. An elder in hia car was so proud to have the Reasoning book bound to his bible.

  I asked him "where did you get that done?"

  He responded something about most print shops can do it.

  I asked how much?

  He responded ""you'll have to see".

  Um. Ok. I never got around to doing that.

  Lol.
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  The Next Big Thing In WT World

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  things got a bit lively after the agm leaks in october.

  there was a lot of discussion going on on this board for a few months.

  now that all the leaks have been more or less confirmed as policy, and we've had lively discussions at length concerning the changes, things seem to have slowed down here.. a few suggestions have been raised as to what might be the next changes, such as women being allowed to wear slacks (in the usa, anyway), decoupling from 1914 as an anchoring date and others.. so, what changes do you think will be announced this year?.

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  Beth Sarim

  Who knows?

  Maybe one of these days the governing body will come out and say "we never said we were Gods spokesman or Gods only channel.""

  ROFL. 🤣
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  What you think consequences gonna be for watchtower if they lose the court appeal in Norway?

  by Hellothere in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  personally i think they gonna realise god's not backing org.

  that idea gonna get even more established in their minds.

  i think the real selling of kingdom hall gonna start then.

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  Beth Sarim

  Losing charity status in Norway could start a systematic chain reaction of events to a massive fire sale sell-off of KHs.

  Losing charity status means the Borg will have to start paying property tax on their khs and properties.

  That cant happen in witnesses land,, they cant afford it or want it.
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  What you think consequences gonna be for watchtower if they lose the court appeal in Norway?

  by Hellothere in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  personally i think they gonna realise god's not backing org.

  that idea gonna get even more established in their minds.

  i think the real selling of kingdom hall gonna start then.

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  Beth Sarim

  If they lose charity status "Armageddon is starting,,Armageddon is starting"

  Convincing the $heeple to sell everything and give it to the Borg.

  Theyve been saying for 10 years to hear "strange" or unusual instructions.
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  The Reasoning Book

  by Magnum in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the book reasoning from the scriptures was released in the 1980's, and it was used at virtually every meeting for service, every service meeting, and every theocratic ministry school meeting thereafter.

  many jws had copies bound together with their bibles.

  it was huge in jw land back then.. at that time, with the reasoning book, jws were trained to keep conversations going in spite of objections, to almost stick their feet in people's doors to keep conversations going, to defend "the truth," to argue doctrine, etc.. compare the situation today with that of the 80's.

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  Beth Sarim

  When I was new on this forum back around 2009,,, there was an elders letter & a push for the pubs( victims) to return old literature to the KH.

  Haha!! Too bad so sad.

  Those books are mine. My property. You'll never get them from me!!! NEVER.!!!
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  The Next Big Thing In WT World

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  things got a bit lively after the agm leaks in october.

  there was a lot of discussion going on on this board for a few months.

  now that all the leaks have been more or less confirmed as policy, and we've had lively discussions at length concerning the changes, things seem to have slowed down here.. a few suggestions have been raised as to what might be the next changes, such as women being allowed to wear slacks (in the usa, anyway), decoupling from 1914 as an anchoring date and others.. so, what changes do you think will be announced this year?.

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  Beth Sarim

  They just didn't want to wear pants?

  It's just like that video of some guy in India stating that a JW taking a blood transfusion or refusal one was a ''personal choice''.

  UM, okay, right I'll buy that one.
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  Russia's FSB Raids Jehovah’s Witness Office in Occupied Mariupol

  by Bangalore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  russia's fsb raids jehovah’s witness office in occupied mariupol.. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/01/15/russias-fsb-raids-jehovahs-witness-office-in-occupied-mariupol-a83726.

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  Beth Sarim

  "(The issue I was directly commenting on is that the WTS considers all human governments under Satan's control directly or indirectly) ""

  This firms-up Borg us. vs. them mentality.

  The Borg claim that "this is the best imperfect organization'' mentality.

  • Us. vs them. ''Jehovah vs everything and everyone else''.
  • Us vs them black and white thinking.